The other day I was having breakfast with a couple of photography friends. During our conversation one of them started lightheartedly admonishing about me talking him into buying Olympus gear (he had been a Canon 7D shooter) a few years ago and then me selling mine and only keeping my Fujifilm gear.
It's true. However, even though I’ve now moved away from Olympus, I still recommend the brand and the format to my friends and those who may ask my opinion. I didn't move away from Olympus or m4/3 for any defect or shortcomings with the gear or image quality. I moved away due to the haptics and operation of Fujifilm cameras. Above any others, the way Fujifilm has engineered their cameras' (and lenses') controls and menus, they just work best with my brain and muscle memory. In fact, I'll admit the Olympus E-M1 camera feels better in my hands due to the nice grip and forward positioned shutter button, but it can't match the Fujifilm cameras for ease of use.
After using both Olympus and Fujifilm for several years, what differences do I find when photographing with them and what difference in image quality do I see? First, these are my opinions. Opinions are not right nor wrong, just my thoughts the way things work for me and how I may judge image quality. You may judge these same things completely differently and that's okay. We are all different, have different experiences on which to fall back, have different priorities and different priorities, wants and needs. (Remember this paragraph when you see or read an Internet or YouTube 'expert' tell you why a camera is the best thing on earth or not worthy of your consideration. They almost always write from only their own point of view, what's important to them and don't care about what may meet or not meet your needs.)
In a general sense, I'll make the following statements about image quality:
Between my Fujifilm gear and my Olympus gear, I have found minimal differences in image quality in my “normal photography,” which are the conditions under I normally photograph. I’m not talking about the exceptions, extremes or outlying circumstances one may encounter. In those cases the larger the sensor, especially the latest ones with backside illumination and stacking are normally better along with the most powerful image processor. I've captured some of the absolute best photographs I've ever made and made some of the loveliest prints ever with Olympus m4/3 gear. Hands down. Overall image quality is a wash in my experience. I don't see the difference in sensor size a real differentiator any longer.
I found a slight difference in digital noise at higher ISOs between the two formats with m4/3 having a bit more noise. That difference can be easily be negated by one of the new AI based noise reducing plug-ins, such as Topaz DeNoise AI, On1 NoNoise AI or DXO Deep Prime noise reduction. I think this can also be said when compared to full frame cameras as well. Maybe not in every circumstance, but it most, in my experience. Technology is the great equalizer. In other words, digital noise almost ceases to be an issue any longer no matter what sensor size your camera may have. Almost. There will be exceptions, of course.
The other difference at higher ISOs between the m4/3 and APS-C files is that I think the m4/3 files break down, resolution-wise (fine detail), sooner than do the Fujifilm files. Yes, noise can be reduced or eliminated, but even with the AI based noise reduction plug-ins, at ISO 6400 and above, the Olympus files suffer from fine detail degradation more quickly. But how often you you really photograph at ISOs of 6400 or higher? If you do regularly and you are you using a m4/3 or APS-C camera, you’ve probably picked the wrong format. What is the saying? "Go big or go home!" That can be true for extremely low light/high ISO work.
The dynamic range between the two formats is very similar. I would give Fujifilm the edge because the sensor and image processor are newer than the older technology found in the Olympus cameras. That may change when OM Digital Solutions introduces their self-professed "Wow" camera next year. In any case, again, under normal photographic circumstances it has been a non-issue for me. No disadvantage.
I find myself using the Fujifilm JPEG files much more often than I did with my Olympus cameras. They are beautiful, colorful, sharp, and very pleasing. I found that, although the Olympus JPEG files are nice, they needed a bit more editing to optimize them and aren't nearly as nice as the Fujifilm JPEG files. Fujifilm gives us so many options to configure a camera to optimize JPEGs for our subject matter (very colorful, saturated, low saturation, contrasty, flat, black and white) and to our liking.
Here are some differences I find between using the two camera systems:
I don't find any real difference between the size and weight of both systems, with the exception as to when you get to the really long lenses. Then the m4/3 lenses definitely have an advantage in size and weight. The E-M1 Mark III with the Olympus 12-100mm f/4 lens (my normal configuration) attached as compared to the X-T4 with the 16-55mm f/2.8 lens are similar in size and weight.
Olympus cameras are packed with many more features than has my X-T4. Most of the features, which are nice to know are available if I need them, go unused by me as I have little need for many of them. However, the extra features are a 'nice to have' but also can cause unintended consequences. Read below and you will better understand.
The Fujifilm menu system is easier to use to me. It is simple, intuitive, easy to find what I'm looking for and allows me to create several pages of "My Menu" to put the most used settings (beyond the 16 that are on the Q-Menu) right at my fingertips. I never have to stop and 'hunt' for a setting and take the chance of missing a photo opportunity because I can't change a camera setting quickly and easily.
Olympus menus are much more complex. But there is a reason. Olympus packs so many features into their cameras that it makes the menus very complex. There just is no getting around that. Olympus has been the leader in the industry in creating new and innovative features that help all kinds of photographers capture the images that they are after. That said, once the menu system 'clicks' with your brain, things are relatively easy to find, for the most part. You just have to hope it clicks! However...
Olympus cameras would frustrate me on occasion as I would want to change a setting or employ a feature only to find the menu item grayed out and, for the life of me, I could not figure out why. The result? A missed opportunity. A lost photograph. After returning home I would have to look it up in the PDF user's manual or online. I really didn't like that when it happened and that shouldn't happen. I would like to see OMD Solutions have an informational box pop up when you scroll to a grayed out menu item telling you what other setting needs to be turned off before you can invoke this one. It shouldn't be hard to do and would be extremely helpful. This issue was my most frustrating with my Olympus cameras.
Fujfilm's controls just meld with my 30+ years of using manual 35mm film camera indoctrinated brain. I don't have to think very hard to find and change a setting. The 'muscle memory' still exists.
As far as the actual dials and controls, I found Olympus' 4-way pad and exposure compensation dial superior to Fujifilm's. The difference being the knurling on both controls and the perfect amount of force needed to rotate the exposure compensation dial. I find I have to use a thumb and finger to move my X-T4's exposure compensation dial but the E-M1's dial rotates perfectly with just a thumb. Both cameras could do better with some of the buttons. I find I had to use Sugru to raise the profile of a couple of buttons on both cameras so they could easily be found and distinguished form adjacent buttons without taking my eye from the viewfinder.
The Fujifilm's lenses are just a little bit larger and heavier. I do miss some of the smaller, lightweight Olympus prime lenses but…I find myself almost never using primes over my excellent zoom lenses. I wouldn't say either manufacturer has better lenses, just different. Both make extremely good lenses. I've been happy with the build quality, image resolution, contrast and fast focus from both manufacturer's lenses.
I think Olympus and the m4/3 consortium (primarily Panasonic) has a much better overall mirrorless lens line than does almost any camera manufacturer, including the big three. At least for the kinds of photography I practice. The lenses are very well built, focus fast and are sharp.
I still think the Olympus lenses focus faster and better than my Fujifilm lenses. They literally 'snap' into focus. I'm referring to AF-S focusing in that statement. However, for tracking moving subjects, the X-T4, IMHO, does a better job. Again, the technology is newer. We'll see what OMD Solutions comes up with next year and we'll see what Fujifilm does next year with an X-H2 (or X-T5) to improve what we now have.
The lens I miss the most is the Olympus 12-100mm f/4. That lens is amazing and I wish
Fujifilm would make a comparable optic—a 16-140mm f/4 WR LM IS. That would be the sweet spot for me with a Fujifilm system. Being that there is no indication Fujifilm will, I could go as far as to say that if I ever wanted to reduce my gear to one camera and one lens, that 12-100 would be the lens on whatever the latest Olympus camera might be at the time. I could be happy with just that.
Right now, I am very happy with everything about my Fujifilm gear. Could I go back to Olympus and be happy? Yes, with a qualifier. If so, it would probably because my interest in photography had been reduced to just owning and carrying a camera and single lens with me to record whatever I happened upon that struck my fancy as I moved about my day.
Those of you who use (or have used) both Fujifilm and Olympus—I would be interested to hear from you about the differences you have found.
Thanks for looking. Enjoy!
Dennis A. Mook
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Moved from middle m43 bodies (had the E-M5 MK II and GX-85, last ones were the GX9 and the E-M10 MK III) to a X-T20 (used, to test the system, like it) and a X-S10 (that curiously had the two things that you miss in the X-T4, big grip and front shutter button, but have a mode dial control scheme, very good camera).
ReplyDeleteMost missed Olympus feature: Live Bulb mode. Used very few times, but was amazed how easy is to do perfect long exposures with it. Is so simple and efficient that probably have a very strong patent in place, since no other manufacturer copied it.
Olympus IBIS is better than Fujifilm (even Panasonic is a little better). Not so much in photos, but noticeable in video.
Did not like much the LCD / EVF settings layout of Fujifilm - very small font, that turns into to big with less info when changed in the menu. Panasonic's layout was much better, even the Olympus. Was much worse in the beginning, now it is ok.
Likes on Fujifilm:
- Lenses. Always liked a lot of m43 glasses that I had (specially Oly's 45mm 1.8 and 75mm 1.8), but Fujifilm midrange glass is amazing. Have two of the "Nocticrons" and are marvelous little things. And the 18-55 f/2.8-4 and the 55-200mm f/3.5-4.8 are amazing, liked the midrange m43 zooms but this couple are in another league.
- AF: both of my cameras are midrange and have PDAF. In m43 only the E-M1s and the E-M5 MK III have it. Nover mobthered my so much, since the S-AF in m43 is VERY quick (more than in Fujifilms), but with a little girl in house now I could use C-AF for stills and video, which was impossible in the CDAF bodies.
- JPGs: loved the Olys JPGs (had a session in the E-M10 MK III that have some of my best photos) and even Panasonic in the last gen have good colors, but Fujifilm JPGs are simply astonishing.
Always love m43 - moved just because it looks like that it will become a niche system (wildlife / tele and video), with probably only the top bodies with top features, and since I'm no pro, I use midrange bodies, that could be a dead species on the format. And Olympus / Panasonic never were sold in my country, and if the system goes belly up (not impossible, with this full frame craze, which I have no interest), the devaluation will be very hard.
Marci, thank you for your thoughts.
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ReplyDeleteFor Olympus, I am down to just the EM-1-II & the 12-100 zoom lens & can't get over the usefulness of that combo. No other brand has the Sync IS technology implemented as well as Olympus and the zoom range just works so well. The resale value is limited (perhaps $1,000 for the camera & zoom), so I am going to keep it. I do have Nikon for my wildlife/sports needs and anticipate adding another Nikon once the new Z9 technology filters down, but still keep a special place in my heart for my Olympus gear.
Chris, don’t ever sell that MII and 12-100 combination. It just doesn’t get any better than that for a one camera one lens walk around kit. Thanks for the comment.
DeleteYes - It's part of my permanent collection - wonderful piece of kit!
DeleteI found this column interesting as I switched a few months age for Olympus to Fuji. I'd been an Olympus user for 10 years since the first OMD E-M5 came out. I was enticed by the size and quality of the Fuji x100V as a start. Loved the camera from the moment in picked it up and it quickly became my go everywhere, carry all the time camera. But, of course, I quickly wanted something with more range, so I got an XPRO3 and the excellent 16-80mm zoom. I kept my two Olympus bodies and a few lenses.
ReplyDeleteIn comparing the two, I found I get better IQ from the two Fujis but I still like the colors of the Olympus better to a small degree. Like the Fiji menus much better. Comparing the Fuji XPRO 3 and the zoom lens with the Oly E-M5II and the newish 12-45mm in terms of weight, size and handling, the Oly combination is a little lighter and smaller but not by much. Fuji just seems better fitted to my hands. Of course, the x100V is in another league for weight and handling. I think part of my preference for the Fujis is because I chose Rangefinder type models which brought me back to my days with my beloved Voigtlander Bessa-R and the muscle/mind memory is very, very strong there.
Rene, thank you for your comment. Very interesting.
DeleteI found this column interesting as I switched a few months age for Olympus to Fuji. I'd been an Olympus user for 10 years since the first OMD E-M5 came out. I was enticed by the size and quality of the Fuji x100V as a start. Loved the camera from the moment in picked it up and it quickly became my go everywhere, carry all the time camera. But, of course, I quickly wanted something with more range, so I got an XPRO3 and the excellent 16-80mm zoom. I kept my two Olympus bodies and a few lenses.
ReplyDeleteIn comparing the two, I found I get better IQ from the two Fujis but I still like the colors of the Olympus better to a small degree. Like the Fiji menus much better. Comparing the Fuji XPRO 3 and the zoom lens with the Oly E-M5II and the newish 12-45mm in terms of weight, size and handling, the Oly combination is a little lighter and smaller but not by much. Fuji just seems better fitted to my hands. Of course, the x100V is in another league for weight and handling. I think part of my preference for the Fujis is because I chose Rangefinder type models which brought me back to my days with my beloved Voigtlander Bessa-R and the muscle/mind memory is very, very strong there.
Dennis, as always, an interesting article. Just a few months ago I retested an EM-1 M2 and two lenses. My XH-1 with the 18-55 is literally sitting next to me as I type this. I found the menus challenging and the image quality roughly equal. So no reason to switch systems, even though there is this nagging feeling that Olympus technology could create the occasional enhanced shooting window. As I age, I am more focused on composition and expression than on bigger shooting windows. So my intent is to simplify camera operation, get the technology out of the way, and create stronger images. I think Fuji is a good step in that direction, eventually landing me in the land of the Leica. Best wishes and thanks for these insightful essays!
ReplyDeleteRudiger, thanks for your comments. I agree and that is what I did. I simplified by selling gear and now using only one system with only a few lenses. My emphasis, like yours, is to simplify, increase enjoyment and make better images.
DeleteI just saw this article and thought it compelling. I have been shooting MFT since 2009, but just sold nine lenses and kept two with one camera body to move to Fuji. I still have the E-M5 Mark III and Panasonic Leica Nocitron 42.5mm f/1.2 and Panasonic Leica 45mm f/2.8 Macro. The move is to the Fuji X-T4 with the XF 70-300 and XF 16-80. I find the long telephoto a lightweight setup that gets great photos. The X-T4 is intuitive to use and I like the Fuji image qualities more appealing somehow than the Olympus images, even though both are excellent.
ReplyDeleteThanks for your comment and kind words. Good to hear from you. You might want to check the AF consistency in your X-T4. Many others along with myself have found the camera doesn’t consistently focus accurately when autofocusing at any specified distance. I will have a detailed post tomorrow about this issue and it may be of interest to you being an X-T4 user. Again, thanks for your comment
DeleteYour comment has all the characteristics of being “machine generated.” Am I correct? Was this a test or a real human written comment?
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