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Olympus E-M1 Mark II, 300mm f/4 PRO lens; 1/1000th sec. @ f/8; ISO 400 (6.8mp crop of 26mp image) (click to enlarge) I really cannot complain about the quality of images from my M4/3 gear. |
The bottom line when it comes to image quality, i.e., resolution, sharpness, dynamic range, digital noise, color rendition, contrast, saturation, the differences I see in my images made with both my Fujifilm X cameras (APS-C) and my Olympus E cameras (M4/3) are minor at most and almost all can only be found if you closely pixel peep. If you can find any differences at all, that is. Technology has made the difference. Some may disagree, but technology is now the great equalizer in photography.
I made over 86,000 images and, frankly, in about 85,900 of them, I see no difference in image quality. For me, the two systems produce equally high quality and satisfying images, period. And...I'm pretty picky and tend to pixel peep (I'm trying to stop!). I literally look at images from both cameras every day, compare them often and if I didn't know which camera made which image, I wouldn't know. Neither would you. Both are THAT good. Why? Again, technology is the great equalizer.
Olympus does need a new generation of sensors, however, which is something to keep in mind. New processors as well. In fact they used the same sensor and processor that is in the E-M1 Mark II, which was first showcased at Photokina in September 2016. They just added a second processor to gain more speed. I am sure they tweaked the processor as well, but it is the same processor. You have to figure that the sensor and processor was developed about 3 or 4 years before its fall 2016 introduction. Olympus definitely needs a new generation of sensor in their next cameras. Fujifilm, with the introduction of the X-T3, introduced a brand new sensor and new, more powerful processor. It is has paid off in the accolades it has received.
Excellent lenses are available from the makers of APS-C sized cameras and M4/3 cameras. The lenses I own and use are better than just about anything that was made in the "film era." Again, technology has made the difference. Both Fujifilm and Olympus/Panasonic make superb lenses for their respective formats.
The only practical, everyday differences I experience with image making using my two camera systems are the differences in my personal preferences concerning camera handling, types of and position of camera and lens controls, organization of menus, ease of use and features. The differences here are much more significant to me than any differences one might find in image quality. Which camera system do I enjoy using more and why? That is really the question I need to answer.
As I wrote, technology is the great equalizer. Where we made much higher quality images with medium format and large format film cameras than with 35mm film cameras, those differences in today's digital photography world either have been eliminated or largely made irrelevant for the vast majority of us. Technology, both in the "making" phase of the imaging chain or the "editing" phase of the imaging chain has resulting in us having to throw out about all the old rules concerning format, which apertures are best, etc. The main differences we found in the past largely don't exist any longer. The differences are in the operation of the cameras themselves and lens selection.
Here are some thoughts about the differences between the two camera systems I own.
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Monarch Pass, Colorado; Fujifilm X-T2; 16-55mm f/2.8 lens @ 27mm; 1/640th sec. @ f/11; ISO 200 (click to enlarge) Nor can I complain about the quality of images from my APS-C gear. |
I like Olympus in-body-image-stabilization (IBIS) and assortment of lenses better. In my tests between my E-M1 Mark II and my X-H1, the Olympus IBIS wins every time. Of course, the H1's IBIS is Fujifilm's first attempt while Olympus has been at it for several years and have developed several generations and is recognized as the industry leader.
The Olympus 12-100mm f/4 PRO lens is an extraordinary piece of glass that I cannot foresee ever selling—maybe. It also extremely versatile. I leave that on the E-M1 Mark II almost always and it can do about everything I need in 90% of the situations I encounter, from wide angle, to telephoto to almost macro. But the Fujifilm glass is no slouch either. The 16-55mm f/2.8 is "glued" to the front of my X-H1 or X-T3. As I said both have excellent glass but I can normally get by with carrying fewer lenses with the Olympus/Panasonic offerings and, as a bonus, they are smaller and lighter. All three companies continue to develop new lenses so, who knows what surprises we will find in the future.
By far, I like the Fujifilm controls and menus better than the Olympus. But I like the Olympus features more than Fujifilm's. The "old school" controls of the Fujifilm cameras just work for me without having to think about it. The menus seem to work as well. I can easily find what I need in the Olympus menus but they put so many features into their cameras that there must be a hundred pages of selections. Also, the way Olympus sets up their features, unless you have certain settings set in a certain way, you cannot access certain features. Just the other day, while writing the post on Olympus Pro Capture and Fujifilm Pre-Shot, for the life of me I could not engage Pro Capture on my E-M1 Mark II. I could not figure out what setting had to be changed to be able to engage it. I finally turn my Custom settings dial on the top of the camera to a setting I had programmed for Pro Capture and it engaged. I still don't know why I couldn't engage it directly. That happens more than it should for me with Olympus. As long as I have been using them, I should be able to access anything immediately. Not so. Never happens with my Fujifilm cameras.
The difference in digital noise between the two formats, which is not much at all, is now negated since I started using Topaz Labs AI Clear, a noise reducing plug-in that uses artificial intelligence (their words) to analyze an image, reduce noise and retain maximum detail. I don't know how it works, but it works better than any other noise reducing program I've tried. So digital noise is not an issue in my decision making.
I have found dynamic range about equal between the two systems. I had hoped Fujifilm's new 26mp sensor had improved upon dynamic range, but I can't find it in my images. Dynamic range in my two Olympus cameras pretty much matches that in my Fujifilm cameras. Neither system gives me the dynamic range I want. Really, the best I've ever used was in my Nikon D810. That camera had about 2 stops more dynamic range than either of my current camera systems. But, again, technology to the rescue. The great equalizer. I can rattle off a 3-image/2-stop apart bracket in about a quarter of a second. And, I can engage and disengage bracketing with either a twist of a dial or a push of a button. In camera bracketing will work nicely in about 99% of the images I make.
Final thoughts.
If you are leaning toward buying a micro4/3 format camera, buy it. I don't think you will be disappointed. If you are leaning toward buying an APS-C format camera, then buy that. Again, I don't think you will be disappointed. Either camera system will serve you extremely well. As I said the differences you will notice are in the operational and physical aspects of camera use, not in your final images. The only thing that will result in your disappointment is if you convince yourself that you need a full frame camera. But you most likely don't. Save you money.
At the end of the day, pick the format and camera system that better suits your preferences, go out as often as you can and fully exploit the capabilities of your gear, make satisfying images and just enjoy all the photographic blessings we have in today's digital world. If you worry about minute differences you will just ruin the craft/hobby for yourself. Just enjoy the choices you made and don't worry about what anyone else says about them.
Now—back to trying to decide which gear to sell before the year is out. As you read, not an easy decision.
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I'm interested in hearing your thoughts about the differences in size/weight of elements in the two systems. Not just the objective weight, dimensions which I can get online, but the subjective handling.
ReplyDeleteThank you.
Cedric, thank you for your question. I'm not sure exactly what you are asking, but I'll try to answer. If I don't give you the information you wanted, let me know more specifically, and I'll answer again. Multi-part answer due to restrictions on size.
DeleteBoth the X-T3/X-T2 and Olympus E-M1 Mark II bodies are about the same size. The differences being that the Oly body has a much better grip with the shutter button on the grip. The Fujifilm cameras have the shutter button on the top plate of the camera, which is less comfortable and makes me shift my hand a bit backwards to place my index finger on the shutter button. It certainly is not as comfortable. I found that attaching the battery grip to the T2/T3 improves the grip but still does not feel as comfortable as does the Mark II. Also, attaching the grip makes the T3 much larger and heavier, as you could imagine with 2 extra batteries in it.
Fujifilm added a better body grip and moved the shutter button to the grip on the X-H1 but they made the camera larger, out of necessity, to accommodate IBIS system. It is better than the T2/T3 but there still is something about it that doesn't give it the better feel of the MKII. The X-H1 doesn't "fit" well in my hand. I think if they used a T3 body size and configuration and added a little to the grip then moved the shutter button to the grip, that might work. Another thing about the X-H1. They replaced the exposure compensation dial with a button. All well and good. I had that in my Nikons and had no problems with it. However, the position of the exposure compensation button on the X-H1 is horrible. For the life of me, I could not find its position when trying to keep my eye to the camera. Eventually, I got so frustrated in not being able to find and push it when I needed to, I placed a dab of Sugru on top of the button to raise its height above the surrounding camera body so I can more easily find it. That being said, it still is in a bad position as I have to somewhat manipulate my hand to press it. When I do, I have then reposition my hand to be able to place my finger back on the shutter button. I think they need to return to the exposure compensation dial as is on the T3. I find it works perfectly.
I pretty much keep the 12-100mm f/4 PRO lens on the MKII and the 16-55mm f/2.8 lens on the T3. Those combinations are about the same weight. But when I add the grip to the T3, it weighs noticeably more and, of course, much bulkier. When having each of these lenses on their respective cameras, they both feel pretty well balanced in my opinion. However, remember, for over 45 years, I used medium format film cameras, 35mm cameras of FF digital cameras, so I have been used to larger gear in the past. These two systems get me away from that really large gear, however.
DeleteI think I like the feel of the Olympus lenses better. That is totally subjective, but they seem to operate better in my hands. That may be different from every one else, so take that with a grain of salt. Olympus' little primes are exquisite. The PRO lenses are even better. I think the MKII still focuses as fast as the upgraded focus of the T3. It snaps into focus with confidence.
One thing that is important to me is size, weight and bulk. I can walk out of the door with just the MKII and 12-100 and cover almost anything I will encounter, especially since the lens also focuses very closely. IF I think I will encounter something where I will need a wider angle than 24mm (FF), I can add the Panasonic 8-16mm f/2.8-4, a really terrific lens which also allows me to add filters. Much smaller and more convenient than the Olympus 7-14mm f/2.8 lens which I used to own. With the Fujifilm gear, to duplicate what I can do with the Olympus gear, I have to take the 10-24mm f/4, the 16-55mm f/2.8 and the 50-140mm f/2.8. Much bulkier and heavier and requiring me to carry a much larger bag. If that is the case, I'll pick the Oly gear every time. M4/3 does have its advantages when it comes to lens size and weight.
I like the advanced features of the MKII but I also like the simplicity of the T3. The Oly can be too complicated at times, even for an experienced user. Oh! I almost forgot. The T3 has a much better viewfinder than the T2, H1 or MKII. I really like its viewfinder. It is getting really close to an optical viewfinder. I would like to get a look through Panasonic's S1 and S1R 5.7mp viewfinder one day.
Both systems have their advantages and disadvantages. Both are excellent photographic tools. I could live with either and be perfectly happy.
I don't know what else I can write. I hope I have somewhat answered your question. If not, or if you have additional, I'll be glad to elaborated and continue my answer.
I have just gone through the same dilemma. The Fuji, X-T3 went. No technical reason, I liked the layout and handling but the Olympus features were so compelling, especially with the 12-100mm lens. There was also something about using the less popular system and still proving 'them' all wrong. Anyway I have simplified my life, no more comparing and deciding. Maybe get back to actually just being focussed on the images. I wish you well, and any decision will be the right one.
ReplyDeleteMac, thanks for your comment. I’ve had the same thoughts, interestingly enough. One problematic area that I still have with Olympus is their pricing structure. The industry is currently in flux, Sony being the disrupter, with prices being driven down for larger sensored gear. Everyone from Canon to Fujifilm have already put a lot of their cameras and lenses on sale and the introduction of the new FF Canon at $1299 is rather startling. How will Olympus react? How will Olympus compete? In my judgment the R&D and production/distribution costs for M4/3 are really not much different than full frame, but the value of M4/3 versus full frame is perceived to be less. I worry about Olympus’ long term survival unless they can lower their prices to meet the “perceived” value of M4/3 gear versus the now lower cost of buying larger sensored gear.
DeleteSome serious first world problems you have there Dennis :-). Sometimes I think I was happiest having one camera and 3 lenses, ultra wide, normal and telephoto. As I add more lenses to solve what I think are problems or to fill gaps, it makes for more decision making when I go out to shoot. Oftentimes I wish I had made different lens choices as opportunities present themselves.
ReplyDeleteAs am Olympus user, I share your concerns about the company's future. Their lenses and bodies keep getting better, but at a steeper price and larger size. Meanwhile the competition is getter cheaper and smaller (at least in the non-tele sizes) while having a larger sensor.
Anyway, best of luck in whatever decision you make. Just don't post your decision on any of the online forums, because the fanboys are vicious. Have a great weekend Dennis.
Jim, thanks for your comment. As much as I enjoy using my M4/3 gear, the two factors that may sway me away from that M4/3 would be the long term future of the format and its continuing development of new and better sensor technology and the prices of the future cameras (there will always be plenty of lenses available). I’ll be watching the photographic news closely this year to get a sense of M4/3’s future as well as Panasonic’s and Olympus’ new introductions. If either go the wrong way, that may make my decision for me.
DeleteLike you, and others here I have both systems but have really gravitated to the XT-2 and now XT-3 since buying into that system. A lot of what I do is portraiture and my wife is a natural red head "think, Lucille Ball" which is something every other camera I've owned up till I got the first Fuji did poorly with. It was always the same, if her hair was accurate her skin tone was way off and visa versa. It's something that only seems to affect natural red/Orange heads but the colors out of the X-Trans sensor are absolutely better for me even beyond that. I also see smother transitions in the out of focus "from sharpness to bokeh" areas since I regularly shoot from F1.2 to F2.0 for portraiture. For most other things I shoot it's all about the EM1-Mk2.
ReplyDeleteOne last thing, I would love to see a post someday on Topaz Labs AI Clear. I don't think I have seen that on your blog yet.
Eric, my daughter and one of her two daughters are also natural redheads. My graddaughter’s hair is almost a metallic copper. Quite striking to me and I know what you mean about skin tones and hair reproduction.
DeleteI have a post written about Topaz AI Clear and will probably publish it later this week. It isn’t magic, but I think it is the best I’ve seen so far in the trade off of noise reduction and keeping small details.
Thanks for the comment.
Thanks, I look forward to reading it.
DeleteDennis, have you tried picking up a Panasonic G9 and having a play? I did so recently and was genuinely surprised at how ergonomically fantastic I thought it was. Just a thought as an alternative to the Olympus body but retaining use of some of the best lenses in the m4/3 system...
ReplyDeleteI have not. However, I was telling a friend just yesterday that I thought the G9 is probably the most desirable M4/3 camera in the market today, taking into account feel, features, size and price. I suspect, at some time later this year, I may rent one for a week to try it out.
DeleteI have been scaling back also between the Fujifilm and M/43rds Systems.
ReplyDeleteI only have my X-T2 and 18-135mm lens left plus a lot of batteries and chargers.
I quit Olympus bodies 3 years ago, because I never could find where I wanted to go on their Odd Menu Systems. I really need smaller lenses and in body stabilization the older I get. I am recovering from detached retina surgery and I want to lighten my load of heavy gear. I switched to the Panasonic Lumix M/43rds cameras a couple of years ago mainly for their logical menu systems. No Regrets! I now have a Lumix G9 which has a viewfinder and grip that I am in love with. I also have the GX9 for walking around in cities and a GX85 that has been converted to Infrared by LifePixel. I have about 6 lenses, with my favorite being the Lumix 8-18mm lens, that I bought on special with my G9. With the G9, it was just $595 from B&H. I soured on Fujifilm when they kept making cameras without in-body stabilization. I wanted a stabilized zoom starting 24mm (16mm) wide and going to about 200mm on the long end, and they still do not have one. So, it is just logical to make more pictures with one system.
Bob, thanks for your comment. I hope the surgery has completely healed your eye and your problems are all in the past.
DeleteI've heard that the Panasonic cameras have menus very similar to the Nikons. As an old Nikon user, I should try one sometime soon. I think the G9 is the most attractive M4/3 camera on the market today, considering its handling, features, image quality and price. Also, I have the 8-18mm Panny lens. Isn't it sweet?
One question, if you don't mind. Considering the cameras you've owned in the past, not considering your health as a factor, does M4/3 completely fulfill your imaging needs? Just curious. Thanks in advance.
As far as Fuji is concerned, like you, I would love to have a 24-200mm f/4 equivalent lens like my Olympus 12-100. That Olympus lens has become indispensable to me. Fuji's new 16-80mm f/4 is going to be nice, but it doesn't quite have the long focal lengths I would want for an all around lens.
Again, thanks for your coment.